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Hi. I'm the new guy
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December 13, 2011
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Hi folks,
New here and I’m interested in learning more.
I’ve been trying to meditate for some time, but not doing a great job of it.
So lately I’ve been looking for some instruction and I’d like to try this method out. I literally JUST found this site so I have lots of reading to do.
I have done a bit of reading and thought I’d ask a few initial questions. This evening when I sit down to do some studying I’ll review this thread as well.
It seems there are several important processes discussed in this method.
1) Awakening the Kundalini
(is this done prior to every meditation?)
2) Raise the Kundalini – before and after the meditation
(I assume this must come after the awakening process?)
3) The Bandhan – before and after the meditation
4) The thoughtless awareness meditation
5) Clearing “catches”
(is this done during every meditation?)
(When is this done? – during the thoughtless awareness part?)
Thanks!
December 13, 2011
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Mar'yana
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Dear loapath, 

welcome!

One thing to say about Sahaja yoga meditation is that it’s a spontaneous and natural process, so it does not always require a rigid routine of getting into meditation, rather, when you are thoughtless, you can just enjoy that, and when you are not, than there are different things you can do to help you get there, and some will work better than others at different time.

Now, to answer your questions…

1) Awakening Kundalini – this is a guided meditation, you should do it al least once, and see whether you feel your energy awakened. You can also do it when you have extre time at the beginning of the meditation, if it works well for you. I know of menay people who were playing it (or following the steps on their own) every time they would meditate the first few weeks, and it really helped them reach thoughtless awareness. Having said that, you don’t have to do it every time. You can try other guided meditations we have in each of the 10 classes of the course, and see how those work for you. Ideally, after some time, you will be able to guide your own meditation yourself, depending in what it is you need on that perticular day or occasion.

2) and 3) – Raising Kundalini and Bandhan – we do thing usually before and after meditation, and also on some other occasions. The purpose is to raise and establish our energy, and to keep our attention on our energy.

4) thoughtless awareness – this is meditation proper. When we are in this state our energy can balance our system, clean it and nourish it, this is the essence of this meditation technique, the most important part of it. So this is the aim to be reached, most other things we do are done to help us reach this state, or make it deeper and more solid.

5) clearing catches – there are additional techniques you will learn eventually, which can be used to help your energy remove imbalances or obstacles from your system more effectively, when you feel them. I would suggest to not worry about those at the beginning – they might just distract you from reaching thoughtless awareness, but will be introdused to them in the flow of the course. However. to answer your question, normally if we feel catches at the beginning of meditation, we might spend some time “working on them”, and then we spend some time just in thoughtless awareness state (hopefully).

Wishing you good experiences with our online course,

Please do not hesitate to ask us questions, as they come up. 

Mar’yana smile

December 13, 2011
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Thanks very much Mar’yana!

Very helpful!

December 13, 2011
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Hi folks!

 

Just thought I’d post a follow-up.

I did th guided meditation for class 1 tonight and really enjoyed it.

 

I comitted to the process and even made space in a room and sat on a small cushion.

(instead of trying to meditate as lied in bed – hoping I didn’t just fall asleep)

:)

 

It went well, and I look forward to spending some time with this meditation and then moving to class #2

 

My only critisicim is that the meditation was over with no warning.

It just ended, and as far as I knew it could have been halfway through.

I downloaded the iTunes podcast library so when the meditation just ended – and suddenly class #2 began to play I was little surprised.

 

But – all in al.

I enjoyed the meditation and have high hopes. :)

Thanks to all the folks that made this resource available!

 

 

 

December 14, 2011
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Glad you enjoyed it… smile

Yes, we’ve had that comment before, that it finishes without letting you know it finishes. Sometimes when we do guided meditation live, people are enjoying so much, you don’t want to interrupt them by telling them to finish :), so sometimes it’s just better to let everyone finish when it’s their time to finish. I agree it might be a little confusing for a complete beginner…

Hope to hear from you again,

Mar’yana

December 15, 2011
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Not sure why mu other posts are still awaiting approval from an admin, but it seems Moderators can see my posts …
so here’s hoping someone can read this.
Did guided meditation #1 again last night.
(about the 3rd time I’ve done it)
I may have felt a “Coolness” on my right hand.
Specifically on the two fingers furthest from the thumb.
Perhaps a slight coolness on top of the head too, but not as strong there.
Not sure of the significance, but it was interesting.
December 15, 2011
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Hi,

yes, the admin must be away so sometimes it take some time to aprove messages. smile

So it’s sounds like the experince is good so far. That’s good.

Often these sensations are quite subtle at the beginning, and so sometimes it’s difficult to say for sure whether they are really there. But they should become clearer with time.

How is your experience of thoughtless awareness – are you able to not think for some time? Do you experience the calmness, peace and satisfcation? Those are some of the other apects of meditation that many people enjoy, even if the other aspects might be short-lived or not very clear.

Will talk to you later!

Mar’yana

 

December 15, 2011
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Yeah thoughtless awareness & still Peace are what I’m going for.
(I just made note of the coolness because the classes mentioned it) 

 

So far I get a minute or two of thoughtless awareness perhaps.
No real “Bliss” or especially peaceful feeling just yet.

I’ve been able to get that “Minute or Two” of thoughtless awareness with other methods of meditation, but I really like how (so far) I get my minute or two with only a 10 minute meditation. In the past I would have 20-30 minutes invested before I got there. 

I’m not very far into the course, so I’m not sure if the success is due to it, or just having had a couple of good sessions.
Time will tell, but I do like the simple approach to everything that this method takes. 

 

December 16, 2011
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Sounds good, keep us posted! smile

Mar’yana

December 21, 2011
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Hi

 

Thanks for the questions and answers as i too was surpirsed how quickly and without any warning the first session finished. 

It is amazing how quick the thoughtless awareness is achieved in the guided meditations as my attempts with meditation before have never achieved this so quickly.

Good luck.

 

December 22, 2011
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Dear stuartje,

Yes, this meditation technique is called “Sahaja”, which in Sanscrit meant “in-born”, natural, spontaneous… 

Glad you are enjoying, and welcome to the course smile

Mar’yana

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